The post describes a simple but extremely versatile 100 amp, variable voltage power supply circuit using just a few BJTs in parallel and in a common collector mode. The idea was requested by Mr. Andre.
Technical Specifications
Hello Swagatam, I was wondering if you could possibly assist me. on the blogs I have seen some diagrams for simple variable power supplies.
Firstly I know very little about electronics, but with a shopping list and a diagram I am sure I would be okay.
I would like to build a simple variable power supply with an input of 220/240 volt ac and an output variable voltage of approx. 1.5V to approx. 15V and a variable output current of up to approx. 100A.
I have started zinc electroplating as a hobby (have sweaty hands and want to protect all my tools) the chemical company gave me these as a more or less dependant on my zinc plating bath size.
At the moment the little 6V 8A Ryobi battery charger works for a few minutes, overheats and cuts out till it cools down again. I would really appreciate any assistance you could give me on this.
Many thanks
Andre
The Design
A very straightforward circuit design for the proposed 100 amp variable voltage power supply can be witnessed in the following diagram.
The design basically utilizes a common collector or an emitter follower topology for implementing the operations, by incorporating just a few Darlington power transistors, some resistors and a pot for varying the output voltage.
As can be seen in the diagram, the collectors and the emitters are all joined in common across each other while the bases are made into a common line via individual limiting resistors.
The free ends of these resistors are joined together with a pot across the negative line of the circuit, which determines the voltage regulation at the output of the circuit.
For acquiring more current, more number of transistors may be added in the design, and for reducing the output amps, these may be simply deducted from the configuration.
For inputs above 50V the pot must be upgraded to a high wattage type to sustain the high voltage across its terminals.
All the power devices must be mounted over a common aluminum heatsink without any mica isolation, so that the dissipation is shared uniformly across all the devices and a thermal runaway situation is prevented.
Dear sir,
The request is , Quote “I would like to build a simple variable power supply with an input of 220/240 volt ac and an output variable voltage of approx. 1.5V to approx. 15V and a variable output current of up to approx. 100A.” Unquote.
If you clarify on following points i will be happy. The quote mentioned variable output current of upto 100A .Is the current variable in your circuit or it is fixed 100 A.
Where the input is to be connected, i think a separate 230 V Ac to 12 V Dc has to be wired separately?
In the above mentioned circuit, one is 150 A and other 100 A, what is 150A and 100 A. Why both outputs are given
Dear K premila,
The current is not variable, it will almost equal to the input current supply.
the circuit is designed to work with a 100/150 amp transformer.
The output is shown as 100amp to indicate that a minimum 100 amp can be achieved without fail with an input of 150 amp.
If you want to avoid the transformer, it may be possible by replacing all the BJTs with MJ10023 and by feeding a rectified/filtered 310V at the input side, this design being not isolated from mains this configuration can be dangerous to touch, so proceed with caution
Thanks for your clarification
Regards
Premila
you are welcome!
Ola Swagatam,
como faço para te enviar um arquivo para analise?
Olá Swagatam,
como posso enviar um projeto para analise?
Olá Swagatam,
Sou hobbysta e queria criar uma fonte de 70v como posso aumentar está.
poderia me mandar seu imail para enviar arquivos para analise.
Olá Swagatam,
Acompanho seu blog e estou aprendendo muito, tenho uma duvida relacionada a fontes ajustaveis.
Como posso ligar duas(2) fontes ajustaveis (paralelo ou serie) sendo que as duas tem potenciometros e regular a saida com um (1) potenciometro apenas?
Ficarei muito agradecido se puder me ajudar
Obrigado Joao, você pode dar um exemplo do design do circuito ao qual você está se referindo? Isso me ajudará a analisar o problema corretamente. No entanto, pode não ser tão fácil controlar as duas fontes que têm potes individuais a serem controlados com um único pote, você pode colocar um pote duplo e usá-lo simultaneamente para controlar as fontes juntas, para que seu requisito possa ser cumprido.
onde posso enviar um arquivo para analise?
João, se é um design pequeno, poderei analisar, mas os projetos maiores podem não ser possíveis por falta de tempo … você pode enviá-lo para
homemadecircuits
@gmail.com
can you teach me how to do circuit diagram 5volt 300 ampere..
I am going to try it and let you know. I have two more questions for you. The values for the pot and resistors are the same for the darlington pair? Do you think that it would be possible to drive the base of the the transistor or the darligton pair from a different power supply? 5v for the transistor or 10v for the pair? Sorry if questions sound a bit silly but electronics are a really new thing for me.
as mentioned earlier the values can be 100K for the pot and 47K for the base resistors of the Darlington pair using BU and MJE
you can drive it from a different low voltage source in that case the resistors and the pot could be exactly as suggested in the diagram.
if you are using a different supply then make sure that its negative is connected and made common with the load negative
Hello Swagatam.
I am trying to make a test bench for ac/dc motors and solenoids with a voltage range from 12 to 220VAC and VDC.The setup is a multiple output transformer,a selector switch, some relays and a high voltage rectifier with 2 different filters. One for 12V-50V and one for 110-220V.
For adjusting the voltage(5V in the 12V range up to 45 in the 220V range I am using a voltage divider). The problem is that because the type of loads I am testing have a small resistance the voltage drop is very high. I have to use a 1000kΩ resistance in series with the load to keep the drop in check. As you can see this not efficient and its bad design altogether.
I am thinking that if I used this desing using a couple of BU931p npn I have availaible it would do the trick.
Do you think it would work and if you do can you help my with the valueus of the resistor and the potensionmeter?
Hello Mike,
technically it should work, you can try it with some caution.
you might have to make the BU transistor more efficient by converting it into a Darlington pair, using a MJE13005 with it.
for the pot you could try a 100K pot and for the base a 47k 10 watt resistor.
Thank you very much for reply……….
I used 4 tip142 as per above circuit for 30amp o/p. I get o/p, but heat dissipated is more, because of that after sometime ciruit gets bypassed.
If I used IRF540 same manner, how do I connect?
Should I replace Collector of TIP142 to DRAIN of IRF540, Base of TIP142 to SOURCE OF IRF540 & Emitter of TIP142 to GATE of IRF540?
you must use a common heatsink that should be sufficiently large in order to keep the devices cool. you an also try adding one more TIP for the same.
for the mosfets the drain will correspond to collector, gate to base, and source to emitter
hi Swagatam,
Can I use IRF540 instead of TIP142, for above voltage regulator circuit??
Hi Kaustubh, you can try it…I think it might work, although BJTs are more suitable for this application
Hi again Swagatam
I would like to use the above circuit (with the Tip 32's ) @ 70 Amps with a 60V output transformer that when rectified and smoothed drops to 35V drawing 70 Amps. My goal output voltage is 24V i will be using 20 Tip 32's with 0r1 10W sharing resistors what do you think the 10K pot wattage should be and how good do you think that the output voltage regulation will be ( i also have the option of using Tip 3055's as well )
regards kev
Hi Kev, TIP32 will not work since it's a PNP, and not a Darlington type of BJT, and moreover it's max current is less than 5amps…
Sorry not certain where i got that from i meant Tip142 as in your circuit.
yes that will do, the resistors and the pot can be the standard ones.
Or suggest me a better 0 to 30 V variable power supply with 0 to 10 A variable current range..
i need 300 W power output at 30 V so a current of 10 A is required.
i prefer a simple design with less components..
can i use power transistors like TIP32 instead of 2N3055 ?
RT, the suggested link in the previous comment is probably the best design according to me and should provide you with the intended results, and it uses just a single IC so it won't be difficult to build.
TIP32 is less powerful than 2N3055 so they cannot be interchanged
hello sir RT again..
Could you please suggest a variable power supply circuit which can deliver voltage in the range 0 to 48 V and current in the range 0 to 25A
my transformer is a 300 W step down transformer having a total of 5 terminals in primary and 4 terminals in secondary…the transformer is able to output these voltages at different terminal connections ; 12 V, 24 V , 35V and 48 V
since the transformer is a 300 W one I assume a current delivery minimum of 22 A at 12 V , 11 A at 24 V, 8A at 35 V and 5A at 48 V…. so i require a circuit whose voltage can be varied from 0 to 48 and current from 0 to 25A.. the voltage and current have to be varied independently..
CAN I make the circuit with only one LM317 for voltage regulation and some current boost as shown in this blog page ?
https://homemade-circuits.com/2015/12/lm317-with-outboard-current-boost.html?m=1
Hi RT, you can try the last circuit using the 317/mosfet version….but the current cannot be made variable in this option, rather you could try the following design and modify the power transistor and the limiting resistor values for the desired customization.
https://homemade-circuits.com/2016/01/universal-variable-power-supply-circuit.html
Hello Sir.
If i short circuit the output, can i use this design like a dummy load for test linear PSU?
Hello Cesar,
if you short circuit the output of the above shown circuit, will result in blowing off the transistors, so I don't think that would be safe.
Hi Swagatam,
I made this circuit as it is shown. At first, it worked pretty well but managed to blow out a few TIP142 in a while.
I changed those and tried again, but yet it blew off a couple more. What am I doing wrong here? While mounting the TIP142s I am using thermal compound between the transistor and the sink.
Also I have a fan for active cooling of the heat sink.
Please suggest what may be wrong here.
Thanks
Hi VM, th above circuit can blow of only under two conditions, if the transistor pinouts are wrongly connected or there's an overload across the emitter/ground of the system.
you can try connecting 0.3 ohms 5 watt or some other lower value resistor (calculated) with the emitter of each of the transistors and then check the response.
you can use this formula to calculate the resistors.
R = V/10
Hi Bro,
Thanks for your reply.
Regarding the output voltage from the transformer, before I went about reducing the turns to get 26 volts unrectified from the secondary, I attached an AC Dimmer at the input of the primary coil.
Without the dimmer, the secondary was putting out 37 volts unrectified.
After using a dimmer on the primary as a simple trial, I could dial down the secondary unrectified voltage to up to 16 volts.
But after rectification and filtering through 15000 uF, 50 volts capacitor, the output remained steady at 50 volts DC (Rectified and filtered).
I tried 26 volts and lowered to the minimum limit possible of 16 volts unrectified from the secondary. No matter what the unrectified voltage was at the secondary, the capacitor being 50 volts, it constantly put out 50 volts DC when no load was attached. As soon as a load was attached, the DC voltage came down as per the limit set.
My question is that I intend to connect the LM723 voltage regulator circuit to the DC output of the transformer, and even at 20 volts at the secondary, the rectified and filtered output of the trafo is 50VDC without load, would this damage the LM723 chip? (LM723 datasheet states max input voltage as 40 volts).
Would connecting the LM723 circuit ACT AS A LOAD to the trafo and bring down the dc volt from 50 VDC to required 35 – 37 VDC? (Considering the secondary is set to 25 volts)?
Or do I need to change the filter capacitor to a lower voltage value of 40 volts so that the unloaded constant DC out is reduced to 40 volts?
Any other suggestions from your end would be welcome bro.
Thanks,
Bro, the AC dimmer has no role here so it must not be included. The 26V when connected to a bridge and a filter capacitor (with any voltage rating higher than 40V) and powered with a 220V input…the output should show a result as given below:
Peak V = 26 x root2
= 26 x 1.41
= 36.66V
you can connect a 10K 1/4 watt resistor across the output and check the response, the 50V should come down to the above calculated value.
…the capacitor voltage rating indicates the maximum breakdown limit of the caapcitor, it has no connection with the output result
Hi!
Thanks for your reply.
In the first circuit in my given link, using LM723, it is mentioned that this power supply is rated for 10 amps, while there are 4 x 2N3055 power transistors used. Each 2N3055 is rated for 15 amps. Does this make the circuit capable of 60 amps? If not, how many transistors should I use for 40 amps?
Also can I replace these transistors by any other suitable higher amp transistors or mosfets to make the circuit more efficient and less prone to heat related failures? Also this could reduce the no. of components used.
Regarding the pot used for current limiting, does this have to be a special kind of pot? Or any normal pot would do?
Awaiting your comments.
Thanks for all your help.
Regards,
Vimal
If the emitter resistors are removed then it be able to handle 60amps.
you can use the shown set up for gettinh 40 amps, replace the BD139 with a TIP122 for increasing amp response.
2N3055 can be replaced with TIP35C, and just 2nos can be used for getting 40 amps.
the pot can be any ordinary type.
Hi !
Thank you so much for all your help. Really do appreciate your time and efforts put in to helping all.
I have a few more queries for the power supply incorporating LM723.
Got the transformer for feeding the LM723. I had ordered the transformer maker to make the transformer so that the input Primary is 230 VAC mains and output voltage is 35 – 37 volts DC.
The transformer which he made has an output of 51 volts dc without any load. He said that this would come down to 37 volts when load is connected.
If tuning down of the primary AC input voltage is required, the transformer maker has suggested using a 1500 watt AC dimmer, this in turn would tune down the output DC voltage. Is this ok to use for this circuit?
The LM723 has max input voltage of 40 volts dc. Would connecting this transformer with output of 51 volts DC (Unloaded) damage the IC? Do I need to tune down the voltage to below 40 volts dc without the load for feeding the LM723?
2) Do I need to use emitter resistors of 5 watts with TIP35C?
3) For smoothing capacitor used with the diode bridge on the transformer, I am currently using 15000 uF, 50 volts capacitor. Is this sufficient or do I need a different value? The transformer is rated for 37 volts dc , 40 amps.
Thanks again for all your help bro.
Also, do I have your permission to promote your blog on some of the technical facebook groups that I am a member of?
Awaiting your reply.
Regards,
Vimal
Hi,
Using an 1500 watt dimmerstat to step down a 50V trafo is an overkill….the right approach would be to tell the transformer maker to reduce a few number of turns and make the secondary voltage to 26V.
This 26V when rectified and filtered would yield roughly around 37V, the right value for your need.
I am not sure about the resistor wattage, you may have to fix it with trial and error, and by checking how much the selected one heats up….then increase the wattage until the dissipation looks manageable.
you can certainly share my website anywhere you feel so 🙂
Regards.
…15000uF/50V is great…although a higher voltage than 50V could be preferred for better safety
Hi Swagatam!,
I need to make a bench power supply with the following parameters :
1) Input : Mains voltage 220 volts
2) Output : Adjustable regulated voltage up to 35 – 40 volts dc.
3) Current : Adjustable current up to 35 – 40 amps.
I have found a couple of circuit diagrams on the web, I am not sure of their correctness or performance parameters. Below please find the google drive link for the same.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7h83BRbOTR0UnZ1X29lUzVTY1U/view?usp=sharing
Could you please help with the required circuit? Also it would be nice, if you could specify the transformer details for use with this circuit.
Thanks for your help.
Vimal
Hi VM,
It looks OK to me!
The transformer should be a 0-30V/40 amps.
ok sir thanks. but if it is told to use only 12v trafo, then whats the use of 12v dual type trafo rated like 12-0-12…? suppose i need a 12v psu and need to use trafo. i have trafo of 12-0-12 on secondary. do i need to use all 3 wires or just any 12v and ov wire? why is there 2x 12v out on single trafo?
for a 12V application you can select the center and any one of the outer wires ….however always buy a two wire transformer for such applications, meaning a transformer with only 0-12V wires, this will ensure better efficiency and higher current.
12-012V has its own advantages, depends on the application needs, which might specifically require and call for a 3 wire transformer….
thanks for clearing. 🙂
Sir, i have question regarding step down transformers. i saw many types of transformers at market. those have 2 wires at primary and 3 wires at secondary. im confused about that secondary part. suppose, that trafo is rated 12v 5A. but when i measure with dmm all 3 wire at one, i get more then 28v. now if theres a schematic told to add 12 v trafo, which wire should i connect? and whats the use of that center tapped wire? will you please clarify this please?
Thanks.
the center wire can be considered as the zero terminal, while the other two at the rated value of the transformer….so suppose we have a trafo rated at 12-0-12 this means when voltage is measured across any of the outer wires with respect to the center then it will indicate 12V….but if measured from end to end then it would show as 24V
Extremely nice idea. Albeit missing automation, if I may criticize like a noob. But the uniqueness of the idea outweighs that. I've never come across transistors being driven like that before. Before applying it however I would test the resistance values driving the transistors and find the upper and lower safe and comfortable limits on the pot in order to find a resistance value zone on it that does not make the transistors too hot for my liking. These values may also change a little if we add enough of more transistors to handle all the amps. Two thumbs up bro.
Thanks Mooney,
the above circuit can be made fully automatic by adding the following design to it:
https://homemade-circuits.com/2012/08/make-this-48v-automatic-battery-charger.html
The output of the above 100 amp power supply can be integrated with the input of this circuit for getting the required auto cut off feature.
The base resistors for the above 100 amp circuit may be increased to 10k 1 watt, and it would still work nicely since the transistors are all Darlington and have huge hFe values.
foarte util
thank you!