#209451

Hello, I have been having this idea that i want to try using a relay dpdt switch, so technically I want to use two capacitors which with energize and de-energize as they switch goes on and off. Basically, wonder if is it possible to have it to connect the capacitors in parallel and series? If yes, please help me out.

#209472

Hi, can you explain more elaborately, is the switch a power ON/OFF switch, how does the two capacitors need to energize and deenergize, do you mean when one capacitor is charged then other one is discharged and vice versa, alternately?

#209505

Hi, I am working on a solar charge controller project on Tinkercad and I need help understanding how to physically wire a DPDT relay together with two polarised capacitors to switch between series and parallel configurations.

Here is what I have:
– A DPDT relay with pins COM1, NO1, NC1, COM2, NO2, NC2
– Two polarised capacitors C1 and C2 acting as battery replacements
– A +20V power supply (will later be a solar cell)
– A common GND bus

What I need help with:
1. Where exactly does C1 negative and C2 negative connect on the relay
2. Which relay pins (NC or NO) create the parallel config and which create the series config
3. What voltage I should expect to see across the capacitors in each state
4. Why the voltage doubles in series but stays the same in parallel

The goal is for me to fully understand how the relay physically reroutes the current between the two capacitors before I wire it into my full solar charge controller circuit.

Can you walk me through the wiring step by step?

#209518

Hey, please check the following diagram, does it work for you?
capacitors series parellel using DPDT relay

#209551

Well you gave me an idea, I need to work on my planning once more, however today i have been on the desk the entire day, try to figure out a way I can educate myself more about the functionality of this relay switch:
i tried to begin with a SPDT relay switch: https://www.tinkercad.com/things/7JQK1wm6Prb-neat-luulia/editel?returnTo=%2Fdashboard%2Fdesigns%2Fcircuits&sharecode=A1MRHmN8BcTlYI6GP-3GkBnCTA0e1YoXcQKHEZj3rtU

so, my circuit was inspired by the image u sent me and the circuit in the link attached below. This time I want to include a relay so that it can operate autonomously:
https://www.tinkercad.com/things/e1toVi86wwL-copy-of-relay/editel?returnTo=%2Fdashboard%2Fdesigns%2Fcircuits&sharecode=mSNg0-Ilr-VxN_4IZSH-IU8rZQdwoabxgQghNg5cgMI

However if u can have a look at the initial link that i have sent you, can you please tell me what could have i done better.

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#209571

Sorry,, please send me a proper schematic diagram, checking a pictorial form can take lot of time…

#209617

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lxs2rC6iGu06ojTep2h6KOoZ0VeV3Dl3RRrvwcVBXQY/edit?usp=sharing

Hopefully that is reasonable, i tried to get Multisim ,however its makes my pc slow, but i will try it again today once more because i know that it kinda provide better schematics

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#209622

Yes, you are right. First let the capacitors charge in parallel, then after they are full, switch the relay to series. Keep one voltmeter across each capacitor in both modes. Then add one more voltmeter across the two outer ends of the series capacitors, it should show the doubled voltage. Put the load across these same two outer ends after the relay switches to series.
Also, you do not yet have a proper load switching arrangement. If you connects the load permanently while the relay changes from parallel to series, the relay contacts may momentarily short or produce a high current surge.

#209627

so if I add a load the outer ends of the series capacitor, will it be fine right? and also can you please give a review regarding the circuit too please.

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#209634

Yes, that right, but please change the relay setting and the load switchig in this way:
DPDT relay charging capacitors in parallel and series

#209650

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lxs2rC6iGu06ojTep2h6KOoZ0VeV3Dl3RRrvwcVBXQY/edit?usp=sharing

Please do check that, comments are the link

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#209670

Sorry, I cannot check a breadboard design, please show me schematic.
Or please tell me verbally what you see on the voltmeters when the relay is energized and when it is deenergized,

#209678

sorry…. well initially for example I thought me having a power supply that gives out 10 V , it would allow my capacitors to each store 10 V and with that being said I would have I would read 20 V initially when I measure voltage for capacitors connected in series so…that was my theory. simply because each stored 10V.

2. I wanted to control the load resistance with a potentiometer.

NB: the voltmeter readings for series and parallel I have attached them on the word doc if u could just scroll down please

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#209687

Yes, that is exactly what will happen with last circuit I gave you….the total will be 20V across the load. To adjust the load, just add a 1k in series with a 10k preset, at the collector of the BJT in my diagram.
dpdt relay toggle series and parallel capacitor connections

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