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How to Make an Incubator Timer Optimizer Circuit

Last Updated on January 2, 2024 by Swagatam 190 Comments

A timer circuit design which could be used for turning the position of the eggs in an incubator between predetermined intervals of time was requested to me by one of the keen readers of this blog, Mr. Eugene.

The requested circuit has been exclusively designed by me and published here,

Circuit Specifications

Let's hear the whole episode:

I'm raising chickens for derby and I have hen that is laying eggs. For the hen to continue laying eggs, I need to incubate the eggs. I have researched incubator designs and parts and I have already assembled a simple one. I have a digital 220V ac thermostat and in order to protect it, it will only have to drive a 220V relay. This one already worked well.

Now I have an additional info that the eggs have to be rotated or moved upside down 3 times a day in order for the eggs to hatch well. I am planning to make a rows of eggs holder chained or built together driven by a motor such as electric fan swing motor. Its strong and moves very slowly and I think its quite enough. This 220v ac motor will be driven by a 6v dc relay. Now I need a relay driver circuit and a timer circuit that wil trigger the relay driver more or less every 8 hours for approximately 3 seconds only.

I may not have enough words to reach 300 but I think my intention is clear enough. But if the blog requires 300 words, I will try to extend my explanation.

Thank yo very much and I hope you can help me.

Eugene"

Designing an Incubator Egg Timer Circuit

The circuit of the proposed incubator egg timer and optimizer is given below:P1 should be adjusted for the long 8 hour duration and P2 for the short 3 seconds duration.

Circuit simulation:

Looking at the circuit diagram we can see that it consists of two identical IC 4060 stages which are coupled across each other for implementing the proposed actions.

The upper timer stage is intended for producing long time intervals and therefore its output is taken from pin #3, while the lower IC generates smaller time intervals and so its pin #15 is chosen as the output.

When power is switched ON the following things happen with the circuit:

The 0.1uF capacitor resets the upper IC so that it can start counting, during this period its pin #3 is at logic low which keeps the relay driver stage switched OFF, also the lower BC547 is kept disabled, which keeps pin #12 of the lower IC at high logic which in turn renders the lower IC inactive.

After the predetermined period is lapsed, pin #3 of the upper IC goes high, this switches ON the relay driver stage and also the lower IC pin #12 gets reset, this toggles the lower IC into counting mode.

After the predetermined period, pin #15 of the lower IC becomes high, which sends a logic high to the reset pin #12 of the upper IC, resetting it back to its original position......the cycle repeats, and goes on repeating as long as power is available.

The lower section can be upgraded for generating higher time intervals at par with the upper section by replacing pin15 with pin3 as already done in the diagram below.

The relay contacts are wired up to the motor for shuffling the egg orientation.

programmable incubator timer circuit

Using Rotary Switch for Adjusting the Time intervals

If you find adjusting the pot difficult and time consuming, you could easily replace them (P1, P2) with rotary switches as shown below. The involved could be also easily calculated with some quick and experimentation:

 

timer circuit with rotary switch

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Filed Under: Temperature Controllers Tagged With: Incubator, Optimizer, Timer

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Joseph Nzuza says:
September 18, 2022 at 6:22 pm

Hello Sir;
In line with hatched chicks, I would like to build make circular brooder house with an automatic temperature controller. Not using a microprocessor chip is it possible to design a temperature controller which will switch off when the temperature reaches a set high point and turn ON heaters when the temperature is below the set lower values?
Thanks in advance.

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Swagatam says:
September 18, 2022 at 7:44 pm

Hello Joseph,
You can try the second last circuit from the following article, which uses the IC LM35:

https://www.homemade-circuits.com/how-to-build-simple-electronic/

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Yabagi says:
November 15, 2020 at 4:20 pm

Hello Mr swag,
This is a good design , but my question is how can I interface a digital display to the circuit to read the predetermined time directly?

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Swagatam says:
November 15, 2020 at 7:47 pm

Thanks Yabagi, you can use the following circuit, and configure with the relay output of the timer

https://www.homemade-circuits.com/5-digit-frequency-counter-circuit/

the frequency input can be from a 1 second oscillator using IC 555….precision may not be critical

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rudrud says:
September 11, 2018 at 2:45 pm

hi sir If possible I’ll try the circuits you shared.. Thanks

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Swagatam says:
September 11, 2018 at 4:32 pm

Thanks Rudrud, please do it and if possible provide a small video clips to my email.

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Ken says:
July 31, 2018 at 11:31 pm

Sir what caps i will ceramic or mylar caps?,.help me sir thanks

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Ken says:
December 17, 2018 at 11:26 am

Sir the push button is for reseting purpose?,..because some time when i turn off the circuit and turn on again,the lower ic continues to count,..the upper ic not reseting properly,..

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Swagatam says:
December 17, 2018 at 1:58 pm

Ken, which push button are you referring to?

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Ken says:
August 29, 2018 at 9:27 pm

Sir i made the circuit and its working,.thanks for the design and the assistance sir,….

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Swagatam says:
August 30, 2018 at 8:38 am

I am glad about it Ken, keep up the good work!

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Ken says:
August 31, 2018 at 12:17 pm

Sir when i connect led in pin#14 the blink is to slow sir,.what should i do sir to make the blink fast,..and does the capacitor in pin#9 affects the time interval,..how to compute ur desired time sir,.thanks

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Swagatam says:
August 31, 2018 at 1:56 pm

Try pin#7. Yes capacitor at pin#9 and resistor at pin#10 together are responsible for time delays or the frequency:

https://www.homemade-circuits.com/how-to-understand-ic-4060-pin-outs/

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Ken says:
August 29, 2018 at 3:07 pm

Sir if i remove the resistor P1 and P2,..what should b the initial time interval and the limit rotation of the motor?thanks sir ,..the circuit is working sir,.i just want to know the intial time so i can make a switch interval sir,.thanks sir swag

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Swagatam says:
August 29, 2018 at 4:39 pm

Please see the video in the following article, it will allow you to judge the approximate delay at pin#3. In the video I used 10K at pin#10 and 0.1uF at pin#9

https://www.homemade-circuits.com/how-to-make-simple-programmable-timer/

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Ken says:
August 29, 2018 at 2:59 pm

Sir if i remove the resistor P1 and P2 what should be the initial time interval and time limit of the rotation motor sir?,.thanks

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Ken says:
August 29, 2018 at 11:42 am

Sir can i use 12.6v as a supply voltage,.?,…and if i put the supply the red LED starts to light right?,..my circuit is not working pls help,thanks

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Swagatam says:
August 29, 2018 at 4:37 pm

Ken, yes the red will light up on switch ON, please refer to the articles for all the details:
https://www.homemade-circuits.com/how-to-make-simple-programmable-timer/

you can connect a LED/1K across pin#14 and ground to check the timer response, this LED will start blinking while the specific IC is counting

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Ken says:
August 23, 2018 at 9:30 pm

Sir i have ac 220v motor it indicates CCW/CW what its mean sir?..it can turn clockwise and counter clockwise?help sir,.thanks

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Swagatam says:
August 24, 2018 at 8:38 am

Hi Ken, there’s a lot of information available online, if you search “CCW/CW motor” you will be able to find the answers quickly….

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Swagatam says:
August 1, 2018 at 8:30 am

you can use any type of capacitor as long as it is non-polar.

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Ken says:
August 1, 2018 at 12:13 pm

Sir all value of capacitor is 1uf/25v?

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Swagatam says:
August 1, 2018 at 1:37 pm

Ken, it can be 1uF or you can change them as per your own choice, higher values will give higher time delays proportionately….

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Ken says:
August 3, 2018 at 10:32 am

Sir what is the value of the capacitor in IC 2 between pin16 and 1M,..is it 1uf or 0.1uf…because in the 1st diagram it is 0.1uf and the other diagram is 1uf,…..and i can use 3v dc motor as trial motor?thanks sir

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Swagatam says:
August 3, 2018 at 10:46 am

Ken, I have already answered to your question, use 1uF it will give a better resetting action. for a 3V motor you will need a 3V supply across the relay contact wiring.

for the circuit make sure it is above 4.5V

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Ken says:
August 2, 2018 at 10:52 pm

Sir the capacitor in ic 2 connecting the no.16 pins to the ground,.what is the value sir?,.its 1uf or 0.1uf?,…thanks sir

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Swagatam says:
August 3, 2018 at 6:37 am

you can use 1uF there for better resetting action during power switch ON….you can use polarized capacitor, positive lead will connect with pin#16 line

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Anjali kashyap says:
July 7, 2018 at 12:42 pm

Thank you sir for your wonderful work. Can I get PCB layout of it ?? Sir please both side or back side only ,
Only you can sir because you are the best I am waiting please sir

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Swagatam says:
July 7, 2018 at 1:17 pm

Glad you liked my work Anjali, you can find the PCB design in the following post:

https://www.homemade-circuits.com/how-to-make-simple-programmable-timer/

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Fuzail kareem says:
June 18, 2018 at 2:48 pm

Sir which type of rotary switch I use pls rply

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Swagatam says:
June 18, 2018 at 8:39 pm

You can use single pole multiple contact rotary switch, the number of contacts will depend on the maximum number of time intervals you may prefer to use

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Fuzail kareem says:
June 19, 2018 at 2:09 am

Yes, thank you sir 🙂
One more questions sorry 🙂
I think it is good to use p1 rotary because it need time interval and p2 need duration of time so p2 should be a 1pot ?
Sir I just think but you are the inventor and you are the master! What is your idea ??

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Swagatam says:
June 19, 2018 at 12:36 pm

You are welcome Fuzail, rotary switch can be used for both the timers, because the selected resistors will allow you to get the precise time intervals as required by you. First try a randomly selected resistor and check the ON + OF time interval at pin#3, then you can add more selectable resistors calculated proportionately for getting other time delay options

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Fuzail kareem says:
June 11, 2018 at 6:38 am

Hii sir,
My name is Fuzail Kareem first txn for your good and helpful work I really like you website and your work
Sir my question is how can I change both on and off time as according to my need sir it why because egg need to turn daily (circut on time ) 3-5-7 time and also It must be necessary to every egg it turn whole I mean front to back and it take time more than 3 second and depend quantity of egg
Pls reply sir

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Swagatam says:
June 11, 2018 at 11:26 am

Hi Fuzail, you can replace P1 and P2 with rotary switches and set the timing as per your preferences, please check out the last updated diagram

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Yao says:
October 15, 2021 at 9:24 pm

Hello i buld the circuit but i have a problem my led is flashing . please help me. Thanks

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Fuzail kareem says:
June 11, 2018 at 3:10 pm

Txn for your valuable response

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Ken says:
April 10, 2018 at 8:16 pm

Sir Swag , P1 and P2 (100k resistor) is a variable resistor?pls help,.thanks

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Swagatam says:
April 11, 2018 at 7:59 am

yes those can be 1M pots or presets

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Ken says:
July 19, 2018 at 11:54 am

Why P1= 7200-100=6200k
how it happen sir,..thanks

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Swagatam says:
June 24, 2018 at 8:09 pm

Hi Fuzail, yes definitely you can use two of them in parallel, it will work

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fuzail kareem says:
June 24, 2018 at 7:50 pm

sir i am again
cant get 1uf non polar
i just got 474j 450 volt
is it work?? am i use 2 in parallel

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Swagatam says:
April 11, 2018 at 12:36 pm

Ken, you can try the following concept

https://www.homemade-circuits.com/programmable-bidirectional-motor-timer/

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Ken says:
April 10, 2018 at 6:50 pm

Sir swag,.how can i make the 1st turn of motor is clockwise and the 2nd turn is counterclockwise,…alternate sir,..pls help,thanks

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Swagatam says:
April 11, 2018 at 7:57 am

relay can be any standard 12V relay

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Swagatam says:
April 11, 2018 at 7:56 am

Ken,

You can try the following concept for getting a bidirectional motor operation

https://www.homemade-circuits.com/programmable-bidirectional-motor-timer/

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Ken says:
April 10, 2018 at 6:53 pm

Sir,whats the value of the relay?thanks

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Ken says:
April 10, 2018 at 6:48 pm

Thanks si swag,…sir what direction of the rotation of the motor?is it clockwise or counter clockwise?,..or both clockwise and counter clockwise?,…

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Swagatam says:
April 9, 2018 at 7:31 pm

Hi Ken, load will be your motor for shuffling the eggs, and the supply input will be the voltage as per the motor specs.

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Swagatam says:
April 9, 2018 at 7:30 pm

yes you can if the load is also rated to work with 220V

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